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# It's Ok That You're Not Ok: Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn't Understand Audio CD – Unabridged, 1 Dec. 2017

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## Customer Reviews

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    Not flawless and yet a must read
  

*by L***T on Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 20 August 2021*

1 - I am grateful for this book:The book acknowledges that grief takes you over and carries you along like floodwaters and that there is little you can do about it, but it helps you do what little you can and gradually build up on these efforts to find a measure of peace. It is all about knowledge and empowerment and targets those who grieve and those who are willing, but often not so able, to help grieving people.The book's central message is that grieving people should show themselves kindness and care for their body and mind as much as they can, relying on as many people as can be to do so. It is articulate, thoughtful, and comprehensive. It informs and challenges in equal measures. It also perfectly evaluates what our western culture and medical establishment get wrong about grief.It is my favorite book on the subject, and I am very grateful for it. However, it is not without flaws, and I do not always agree with it.2 - The book needs a better editor:Time and time again, the author hits the nail on the head when expressing what she wants to convey. Unfortunately, many of her points are partly lost in the background noise of the book, which could easily have shed a third of its content and be none the worse for it. That is why I have easily distilled it down from 250+ pages to ~40 pages of notes.The author does what most authors in her position do: she combines two books into one. On the one hand, she is writing a book about her experience of grief (her husband drowned). On the other, she is using her experience to write a book about grief (and her new career as a grief counselor / grief writing course organizer). This approach is perfectly sensible and quite common in many books on difficult subjects such as grief and cancer. However, if poorly managed, it can get out of hand.In this case, the author needed a better, more assertive editor to dial down her ‘been there, done that’ enthusiasm, reduce the number of redundancies in the book, and improve its structure. Too often, it is a case of ‘me, me, me (not just the author, but also a quote from a third party, including participants to her grief writing course),’ when a single ‘me’ would suffice to highlight the more generic points she wants to make. And too many of these points are repeated too often.3 - The book does not shy away from hard truths:At one point, the book asserts that our mind and heart will eventually adapt because they are built that way, whether we like it or not. It also points out that our love for the deceased will evolve but not how we like or deserve it. I particularly like these two points, even though I find them very difficult to face.4 - But it tries too hard to make you happy, eventually:The first meaning of the book is clear: when you are grieving, you are not OK, and that’s OK. Furthermore, you can be as much not OK as you want for as long as you need it. And, for that alone, it is a must-read.The second meaning is less clear and, at times, contradictory. The book asserts that grieving is a journey froma) not OK to OK, but you can stop anytime between the two extremes of ‘eternally broken” and ‘happily ever after,” where you feel most comfortable. Unfortunately, the author cannot help, despite her many protestations of the contrary, nudging her readers towards a “happily ever after” ending, although she tries to wriggle out of this inconsistency by trying to 'redefine' what it means to be happy.b) not OK to different, with this different state of being “OK” explicitly defined as “not better” to start with then, eventually but more implicitly, as “happy.” This is where the book and I part company as the ‘different, but not better’ message becomes ‘different and happy ever after”. Yes, I am different, but I have neither the willingness nor the ability to become happy ever after; however differently happiness may be redefined.Because of this lack of clarity, some have criticized the book as something that could end up getting grieving people stuck between OK and not OK. I do not share their point of view but acknowledge that it stems from the somewhat clumsy and ambiguous way the author expresses herself - but it is worth emphasizing that this clumsiness is rare in the book.It is rare but not limited to the meaning of the title. For example, while the book rightfully points out the dangers of ‘positive thinking,’ the alternative approach it promotes, which it calls ‘Wellness,’ sometimes stoops down to positive thinking territory. Positive thinking corners you into feeling guilty for not having the right thoughts. Wellness takes a more human, self-kindness centric ‘do what you can and don’t feel too bad if at first, or last, you don’t succeed’ perspective but the book kind of asserts that we will eventually be happy only if we live up to what grief/life ‘asks’ of us. I find the notion of having to live up to what grief and life ask of me rather irritating. I intend to only live up to what I ask of myself (which is admittedly also what the book asserts).5 - The book is too ambitious about enlightenment:One of my (many) favorite quotes from the book is ‘Grief is not an enlightenment program.’ And yet the author is very keen not just on grieving people becoming happy but also enlightened.I agree with her basic point on the subject: that enlightenment in the face of grief is to look straight at it, staying emotionally open and bearing witness to the pain, knowing that it can’t be changed.But she gets carried away. At one point, she quotes a third party who asserts that our ‘only choice’ is to ‘become larger and more courageous and more compassionate.’ A couple of quotes from another third party go as far as to ascertain that some grieving people will end up ‘transfigured.’ While I definitively could use some of the funny herbs that this third party has no doubt smoked to reach this conclusion, I cannot agree with it. I have become different but neither enlightened nor transfigured. And I am OK with it.6 - The book is too keen on beauty:I am not particularly convinced by the way the book keeps talking about ‘beauty’ at three levels:a) The beauty of the experience of grief: I agree that we need to redefine grief from a problem to solve (focusing on erasing pain, maintaining control) to an experience to tend (focusing on feeling pain, on the journey from not OK to OK). But I would not go as far as describing this experience as beautiful.b) The beauty of the life that a grieving person can eventually settle into, by integrating, rather than forgetting, the devastation experienced. I agree that beauty and devastation are both facets of life (in line with the book's attempt to redefine happiness). But, for me, the idea that devastation is part of the beauty of life is just that – an idea. Yes, beauty and happiness do exist beneath the fine layer of dust that grief has covered them with; but I cannot consider this dust ‘beautiful’ however hard the book tries to make me do so.c) The beauty of other grievers and the community/tribe they form: I have participated in discussions with other grieving people, have felt compassion for them, and learned from them. Within limits: all grieving process is unique (as the book rightly emphasizes). However, grieving people are just as regular as any other people, neither particularly transfigured nor especially beautiful. I certainly did not experience them as ‘true gifts of loss’ as the book puts it - a point that caused the lower part of my jaw to embed itself into my carpet when I read it. I understand the need for this section of the book, though, as the ‘grieving community as a silver lining to grief’ message is a way for the author to promote her you-are-not-alone ‘Writing Your Grief’ online workshops.7 - It ignores the object of grief:If you think that loving a living person is difficult, wait until they are dead, and you’ll truly face how much of a challenge love can be.  Unfortunately, like most books about grief, this one is too much about grieving people, not enough about the object of their grief – and how to relate to it. This should, perhaps, be a topic included in a second, more concise edition of the book. The book’s central message asserts that grieving people should love themselves. I agree with the sentiment, provided self-loving remains secondary to the love for the late significant other.Bottom lineWe are only human. So is this book. Read it if you can.

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 







  
  
    Worth a read
  

*by R***R on Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 7 August 2022*

A book you don’t ever want to buy but it offered some gems of advice. Bought as an audible book too which makes it easier to listen to. Have recommended it to several friends that have also lost loved ones. I took some valuable consolation away and left bits behind that didn’t quite relate.

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 







  
  
    A must read
  

*by C***N on Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 11 August 2022*

The best book I've come across. Highlighted loads as got it and helped me understand and manage my grief. Was lost till found this book

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